Steve's tube clod build

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Steve's tube clod build

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Well after around 15yrs away it's nice to be starting back into it again. The first of the packages just showed up in the mail. I have to admit I am very pleasantly surprised by a few things. I snagged these axles and tires/wheels for a very reasonable price and was mostly just looking to get the axles to strip down/clean/rebuild as the start for my tuber, but now that I have them in hand I see a few things I didn't even realize at first through the pictures when I bought them. One thing is they have the tube mounted aluminum 4 link months for the lower bars which is nice. Also they have the aluminum upper 4 link mount to mount the upper bars on the top center of the axle which I like. Plus it has the aluminum vertical servo mount which is cool. Another thing is in the pic I thought the wheels were probably just chrome painted but they actually are the chromed clod (plastic) wheels but look look a good cleaning should get them looking pretty spiffy I would bet. Plus the tires are in a lot better shape than I expected so I'll probably shave them and roll the edges and be able to use them on the build.

Picked up some steel tube today (3/16 & 1/4) for making the chassis out of so soon as the Saftey-Sil 45 and lexan guardian body get here next week I can start measuring and building the two main frames rails the rest of the chassis will be built off of so won't be long now till I can really dive back in.
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Nice one! Got some nice extras on those axles.

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Looking forward to seeing where this goes. :popcorn:

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I'm a very OCD person which can be a good & bad thing. So it makes me pretty detail oriented about things I build. In the past back years ago when I was building scale looking RC cars/trucks I was able to buy the old Parma Hemi motor to use on some of them. This truck I'm building isn't going to be a shelf queen, I plan to bash it pretty well, but I still want it to be as scale as I can make it. I had planned to use one in this build but since the old Parma Hemi is discontinued now that isn't an option. I did find a few on Ebay but no way I was gonna pay $80 for one.

So I did a little searching looking at die cast models online and found those 1:18 scale Muscle Machines that have the way oversized blown engine would be the perfect size. Most of them only have the injected blower scoop and a portion of the supercharger case that bolts right to the hood, but then I found a coupe that has the entire motor!

So just ordered this for $30 and going to strip the motor out to use in the tube frame build.

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Those Muscle Machines engines are pretty accurate for using in 1/10 scale. It's funny, the engines alone out of those things go for more than you can buy the entire car for new. People don't realize they came out of a $20-$30 toy, and that's been the scheme. You buy a bunch of them, take the engines out, and make a nice profit. :mrgreen:

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Those Muscle Machines engines are pretty accurate for using in 1/10 scale.
I was hoping it would be. I tried to find some videos online of people's Muscle Machine collections and was trying to compare the engine to peoples hand size in the video before I bought the coupe off ebay :mrgreen: Looked like it would be pretty good scale, so good to hear it in fact is.
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Well lots of stuff showed up today. I'm sure the mail woman must hate me because I run a small business (custom fly rod business) from my home and get a lot of packages all the time, now there's even more for her to drop off :mrgreen:

The guardian body is extremely similar to the suburban body I use to like on my old clods so I was glad to see it was a really close match. Traxxas rod ends for making the 4 links came as well as the Saftey Silv45. I was busy with "work" work till about 8pm so only got to spend a few hours burning the midnight oil on the clod, but I got the body cut out and got the main rails of the frame laid out/cut/sanded the coating off and brazed together. The whole chassis is going to be 3/16" tube but I decided to make the two main rails out of 1/4" tube just because I plan to run this truck hard so I don't want to end up worrying about bending anything if it gets 4-5ft of air and lands all wonky. So now that the main rails are done the rest will be done out of 3/16 tube.

I was iffy about spending $35 for the five 18" sticks of saftey silv 45 brazing rod, but now I am glad I did. Using that stuff compared the the $4 rods from Lowes/HD is like night and day. This stuff flows like butter and leaves a really nice joint that doesn't have a huge build up of filler like the cheap stuff does. I do have to say though the very first brazed joint I did tonight was pretty sketchy and I ended up taking the first one apart and cleaning it/redoing it. I actually was a certified welder and fabricator for about 20 yrs of my life but I honestly have not touched a welder or brazing torch since about 2005 so I was VERY rusty lol. After that first joint though it all started coming back to me and I got the flame adjusted right and the joints are all nice and strong now.

So now I have the main rail done. All square and ready for doing some cross brace and then working on the upper tier of the frame rail hopefully tomorrow night after I get done working.

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Dang thats clean! =D> I might have to get some brazing stuff, last tuber i did was MiG and as you can imagine the joints were a mess :P

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theblazer24 wrote:
Tue Sep 25, 2018 8:22 pm
Dang thats clean! =D> I might have to get some brazing stuff, last tuber i did was MiG and as you can imagine the joints were a mess :P

Yeah hard to do small tube projects with a MIG. If you decide to do a brazed one then make sure you get the Harris saftey Silv 45 (and Harris flux jar too). I just can't express enough how completely amazed by how much better that stuff is than the cheap flux coated rods I used last time. This stuff is just flat out amazing. Once you clean all the left over blackened flux off after your done with a joint it almost looks like there's not even anything holding the tubes together its so smooth. Yet it's stronger than anything I have seen outside of a true weld.

Manged to put in a few more hours tonight after getting done with rod work. Was able to get the upper deck of the chassis done, the braces in between the two mated decks, and the main hoop for the start of the roll cage done.

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Think I'm gonna have to place an order for some more midnight oil because I've been burning all mine up lately. Been trying to make some more progress on the clod chassis after working all day but have been able to get a bit more done late each night. Still a LOT left to do (maybe 50% done with the frame work) but at least its starting to look like more than just a pile of straight tube now. Mocked it up to see what wheelbase I want it as well, looks like 15" is going to be about where I will put the axles.

Somewhat slow going when you consider I've already got probably 20 hours into the chassis, but it is pretty time consuming. Actually I shouldn't complain, I guess it's only been 6 days since I started but my OCD makes it feel like its' been longer. Mainly just making sure all the tubes are bent at the exact same angle and that everything is square is slow going. Plus I'm going through and sanding off the flux after each bar is brazed on because the more bars that I attach the harder it is to get in there with paper to clean it.

Anyway here's how it sits tonight now. As you can see from the first pic....I can't say enough how glad I am I sprung for the expensive Harris braze rod. It makes joints so nice you'd swear there was a little 6" guy somewhere in the shop with a tiny little TIG welder :lol: Incredibly strong too. I actually somewhat tossed the chassis around the shop to see how it handled a shock type hit, as well as stood on top of it (I'm 6'4" 230lbs) and it didn't even budge :thumbsup:

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Wow! Very nice indeed. I'm in awe of your skills. I almost hate to be that guy, but... Can you make me one, too??? :wink:
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Posted this on your other thread, looks like Vaterra has answered the call for suburban lovers:

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Some more progress tonight. Managed to get the front frame struts bent and in, the cab side bars in, and got the lower part of the frame for the 4-link mounts/batt tray in. Most the the main bars are in now. So now it's mostly just adding some cross bracing between the main rails and such left. Then adding the plates for shocks and 4 links and all that good stuff.
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Are you planning to cap off the open tubes in the center section or are you leaving them open?

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Going to cap them off so that water doesn't get into the tube and start rusting from the inside out. Probably would take a long time for that to happen but I figure why chance it. Probably wait to do that last though because I still have some cross bracing to do on the main frame rails so don't want the heat to build up pressure on a sealed tube.
I hear the train a comin'; it's rollin' 'round the bend, And I ain't seen the sunshine since I don't know when.
I'm stuck at Folsom Prison and time keeps draggin' on.