T2........ Judgement Day

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Uh-oh......... :o
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So whats going on here?.......

For those that don't know, I've had a Terminator before, and it was not all I had hoped it would be.
Sometimes I liked it.......and sometimes I hated it. At one point I actually swore-off TVP designs all-together.

But I've had an idea on the back burner for a while now.......
I was going to build my own chassis, and actually started it, but it didn't turn out so well, and I scrapped it.

I decided to take advantage of Brett's latest sale and pick up a center section complete with sway-bars installed. I actually went back and forth between terminator and predator, but i felt the terminator had better battery carrying options and adjustments.

This also coincided with doing a partial trade that got me some axles and other clod parts (and cash!) for my e-maxx.

So what's up?......... this terminator is going to have axle-mounted shocks!
No over stressing the links. They will be locating the axles only, not supporting the chassis.

Why?........ Because I like jumping, and I want to try getting some big air with this one.
It might be a racer, but it's going to live the life of a basher. :twisted:

So anyway, since this will be my 2nd Terminator.... I thought T2 would be a fitting name.
And this will be my final judgement on whether or not I can be happy with one. (maybe)...... :wink:

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So after the usual tear-down and checking over of the axles..... I got to work. :)


One of the first problems I tackled was shocks. I didn't have anything long enough to reach from the axle to the chassis. After many tries at trying to come up with some brackets I liked..... I decided to just make some shock extensions.
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So what we have here are some dubro rod ends (CPE), one inch threaded studs (CPE), plastic from a chassis (scrap), all put on the end of GTR shocks from a traxxas JATO. The plastic bits were mounting posts from a broken rustler chassis. I just cut them out, drilled them through and cleaned them up with a dremel. Then covered it all with shrink tubing to try and make it look halfway decent.

I will probably buy some long shocks, but for now, these will work.
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So here it is starting to take shape:
Note that the wheelbase is NOT stretched with the use on the mounting plates.
The lower links are mounted in the usual spot.
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The axles already had mounting plates on them, but the ones I had from CPE were a little smaller and mounted closer to the outer axle. I probably could have just swapped in the short CPE spacers....but meh.....
The longer spacers came in handy when I mounted the shocks (upper mount).
I also used conical washers liberally for spacers as well as additional clearance.

I didn't like the upper link mounts that came with the axles as well as the CPE set I had on hand, so those got swapped too.
Truck bottoms out on the shocks about a half inch before the chassis would slap, not sure if I like that or not......
Then again, with tire flex (deflation/compression on impact), it might be a wash......

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The upper links are e-maxx tie rods with long/short ends to get the right length.
The lower links are a set of predator knurled links, Budhatrain...... these may look familiar. :wink:
Then I put some tubing on the swaybar ends and strapped them in place. I'm hoping the tubing will keep the zip-ties from sliding around.
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I was quite pleased with how the rear steer lock-out came out.
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I'd seen this done before, but this one is adjustable on the fly. I used camber links from a rustler and an e-maxx tie rod. I wanted to put the short links under the supports, but they were just a tad to long for that. Worth noting is the use of conical washers here. This perfectly centers the bolt in the hole and keeps it from wandering.
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This truck will eventually have 550 e-revo motors in it. I had a single titan 12T handy (same size) and did a mock up.... and even with adjustable motor mounts.... it clears. This made me happy, as I want to gear this up eventually.
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But for now..... silver cans and 13t pinions.
Not sure if it's shown in the pics to come but I put a set of those new CPE motor covers on it too. :)
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My original steering set-up. I'm using the vertical servo mount. The short link was binding (hitting the servo). Too bad, as I liked it like this. I may possibly retry this with a bent tie-rod, but I liked the idea of using an adjustable camber link.
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Now here we have a piece of Clodtalk history!
That there is not just any 2WD slash RX box..... that is the RX and box that came out of the storied super-clod that I once had.... yes, I've held on to it all this time...waiting....
And on the other side we have an EVX-2 esc..... the new one..... with the lipo cut-off built in. :twisted:
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With everything bolted to the side plates, the lower tray is free to hold a 2nd battery.
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Borrowed the wheels and tires off the wraith-buster.... (I still need to get tires for this truck).
You can see here where I had to flip the servo upside down, moving the arm towards the bottom. I don't like that, but it's not binding anymore. I had a LOT of maxx rod ends and linkages to work with and they came in handy. I used many different combos of pivot balls and conical washers to get things placed just so.
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This is really coming together now, but lots of adjustments will yet need to be made.
I am far from done.......very far.....
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It's alive!.......It's alive!....... MUAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!! :twisted:
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I was going to run both batteries lengthways, but didn't like the way the wires were on the bottom one, so instead of using 2 long straps I used 4 shorter ones.
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Yes I broke the motors in first...... and yes I snuck outside @ midnight for a brief spin with it. No "kabooms!"........ yet..... :explosion:


Lots of suspension tuning ahead of me and alignment too..... front end needs some tow-out I think, and the rear might get towed in......we'll see.
Those shock extensions sure helped with wheel clearance when turning BTW...... makes me want to keep them. I think the pink-code springs might be too hard, might have to get some green-code springs.
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Oh, and yes I have a body for it. I'm happy to say the wheelbase lines up too.
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Do you sleep?


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How long where you planning that? It takes me months to finish anything. You bang out a winner overnight. :mrgreen:
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Sweet Ride Andy!!! Cant wait to see how it performs and jumps with that shock setup!

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That's what we like to see! Glad you decided to build one! Bring on the kabooms!!!!

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Looks good so far Andy. I feel this one can withstand most kabooms, so I wanna see her fly!

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taz11 wrote:Do you sleep?


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How long where you planning that? It takes me months to finish anything. You bang out a winner overnight. :mrgreen:
No...... I never sleep...... :lol: actually.... it's just that I work nights. :wink:

This was at least a month in the planning, but I've wanted to build a clod like this for well over a year. Ever since I sold off my last super clod I had been thinking about this concept, but was never sure of the best way to go about it, so I just put it out of my mind for a while.

As for whether it's a winner...... that is yet to be decided, but it does look promising.

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Glad to see u with another Terminator!
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Got some runs in today. :)
I need to do some thread-locking of the chassis screws, but other than that, and a rod end on the rear lock-out.... no problems mechanically.

Tried 3S first.... then 4S. :twisted:
Truck handles the speed easily... could stand to be faster..... :explosion:
The silver cans took the 4S.... but the brushes are wearing already..... need to get some titan 550's soon.

I am a little concerned though..... as I was getting some intermittent cutting out of the power.
So I'm hoping it's the cheap/crappy motor wires, and not the esc or batteries.

Vid is up!
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