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Tink-Tink
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Joined: Wed Sep 21, 2011 2:54 am Posts: 114 Location: Blairsville, PA
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Hey yall, I wanna try something different... A clod axle 4x4 SCT. I have a predator chassis soon to be brushless. Can someone with sct tires try it and give me a idea where to start with pinions. I plan on running 2 5700kv castle motors, or 17.5 sensored
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| Tue May 22, 2012 12:56 am |
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Tink-Tink
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Joined: Wed Sep 21, 2011 2:54 am Posts: 114 Location: Blairsville, PA
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Btw I aught to say how fast it needs to be roughly 30 to 40 mph, but still have punch
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andymac0035
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SCT tires will fit, but you are gonna' need 3S to make it remotely fast enough. ........as for pinions, go as big as you can.
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| Tue May 22, 2012 3:15 am |
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Tink-Tink
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Joined: Wed Sep 21, 2011 2:54 am Posts: 114 Location: Blairsville, PA
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Whats the biggest thatl fit with adjustable motor mounts
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vonclod
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if i remember correctly i had as big as 19t
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| Tue May 22, 2012 4:33 am |
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HawnMT
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Joined: Thu Aug 06, 2009 10:59 pm Posts: 185 Location: Hawaii
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Tink-Tink wrote: Whats the biggest thatl fit with adjustable motor mounts If you don't want to grind the inside of the case, I think it's 16t. If you're willing to do some grinding I've fit 21t pinions but others have fit 22t.
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| Tue May 22, 2012 4:34 am |
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JKRacing37
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Joined: Tue Sep 06, 2011 4:23 am Posts: 608
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Tink-Tink wrote: Hey yall, I wanna try something different... A clod axle 4x4 SCT. I have a predator chassis soon to be brushless. Can someone with sct tires try it and give me a idea where to start with pinions. I plan on running 2 5700kv castle motors, or 17.5 sensored 17.5 sensored will not come close to getting it done in a Clod gearcase with SCT sized tires, regardless of what pinion you fit. Generally speaking 17.5 motors are around 2200kv. Even on 4s that is only 32500 rpm. The 5700's on 2s are 42000 rpm. With SCT tires (4.25" outside diameter) and the 5700's installed, running the 16T pinion (24.4:1 gearbox ratio) will net you a top speed of 21.81MPH. You will need more gear or more motor RPM to achieve 30-40. Not sure of the gearbox ratio with 22T pinions installed. If you ran the motors off 3s, your top speed would be 32.77mph with a 16T pinion.
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Tink-Tink
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Joined: Wed Sep 21, 2011 2:54 am Posts: 114 Location: Blairsville, PA
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HawnMT wrote: Tink-Tink wrote: Whats the biggest thatl fit with adjustable motor mounts If you don't want to grind the inside of the case, I think it's 16t. If you're willing to do some grinding I've fit 21t pinions but others have fit 22t. Where is this grinding you speak of done exatly
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| Tue May 22, 2012 6:08 am |
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HawnMT
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Tink-Tink wrote: Where is this grinding you speak of done exatly
It's the three posts inside the case and the hole the motor passes through. Two of the posts are the ones the sleeves and motor screws go through and third is the one that holds that nut in place that the anti-rotation bracket mounts to. You'l see it when you try to do it because the big pinions will bind against them.
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| Tue May 22, 2012 7:38 am |
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Thunder VP
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Joined: Wed Feb 18, 2004 6:03 am Posts: 422
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I built one 3 years ago and ran at an NR/CTPA event. I had Castle 5700s with 15T pinions on 7 cell NiMH packs. It worked ok on an indoor short track, but lacked top end outdoors. Stepping up to 3s, modding the gearcase for 18T+ pinions or using 6900kv motors would help on the top end. Suspension was also an issue. Worked well on smooth tracks and jumped well, but did not fair well on a rough surface.   
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| Tue May 22, 2012 3:43 pm |
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Tink-Tink
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Joined: Wed Sep 21, 2011 2:54 am Posts: 114 Location: Blairsville, PA
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Thats what im going for, I run 2wd on a medium indoor track. Also both motors will have a 2s. I think im goin to try 20t pinions...im not worried about torque cause to get traction we run slicks
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| Tue May 22, 2012 7:20 pm |
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JKRacing37
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Better keep it off the boards or run aluminum axle tubes.
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| Tue May 22, 2012 7:36 pm |
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Tink-Tink
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Joined: Wed Sep 21, 2011 2:54 am Posts: 114 Location: Blairsville, PA
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I don't think ill have a prob so long as I can get wheel speed to pull the nose around. None of the pro 4 guys run center diffs, so I think clodstall will work in,my favor in that aspect
Edit: do you have widners on that truck?
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| Tue May 22, 2012 8:08 pm |
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nosyajg
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Joined: Wed Mar 14, 2012 7:30 am Posts: 204
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Thunder VP wrote: I built one 3 years ago and ran at an NR/CTPA event. I had Castle 5700s with 15T pinions on 7 cell NiMH packs. It worked ok on an indoor short track, but lacked top end outdoors. Stepping up to 3s, modding the gearcase for 18T+ pinions or using 6900kv motors would help on the top end. Suspension was also an issue. Worked well on smooth tracks and jumped well, but did not fair well on a rough surface.
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| Wed May 23, 2012 6:48 am |
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JKRacing37
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Tink-Tink wrote: I don't think ill have a prob so long as I can get wheel speed to pull the nose around. None of the pro 4 guys run center diffs, so I think clodstall will work in,my favor in that aspect Does Clod stall exist when running two ESCs? I thought Clod stall was only a phenomenom witnessed when running a single ESC and motors wired in series?
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| Wed May 23, 2012 8:52 am |
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