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Re: Three Kings

Post by Sixtys Guy » Tue Jun 07, 2016 6:27 am

Inspired by mrgrimm I made my Wheely King Blackfoot into a mud truck! It's winter here and it's wet, so i haven't had too much opportunity to run my trucks. I love the look of mrgrimms mud trucks and I still have the old Crawler King wheels and tyres. I fitted them up along with some 12mm wideners. I changed the burnt out 27T motor (I had been running it on 3S) and swapped it out for an old 15T Firebolt. I wasn't too sure if this motor was ok, but after 15 minutes it smoked - pretty sure it was an old one I forgot to toss out a while ago.

In the brief bash session I found that I need a diff lock - at least in the rear. One of the other Kings still has the locked in the rear, so I might just swap the whole diff over. As far as motors go I really only have a 3300kv brushless motor spare, but i don't think I have a brushless esc spare. I might try to find another cheap 27T motor to run on 3S.
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Re: Three Kings

Post by rocpede » Tue Jun 07, 2016 8:47 am

That's a really cool Wheely King with the Blackfoot body on it.. An the mud pictures look cool..
if you can't dodge it then ram it

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Re: Three Kings

Post by Sixtys Guy » Wed Jun 08, 2016 2:15 am

rocpede wrote:That's a really cool Wheely King with the Blackfoot body on it.. An the mud pictures look cool..
Thanks mate. Trying to find some more time (away from work) to have a play!

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Re: Three Kings

Post by GRAVETXT-1 » Wed Jun 08, 2016 9:10 pm

rocpede wrote:That's a really cool Wheely King with the Blackfoot body on it.. An the mud pictures look cool..
X2 8)

Mark are the bottom links on your digger WK Crawler King bottom links? If so are they same length as stock plastic Wheely King bottom links or longer?
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Re: Three Kings

Post by Sixtys Guy » Wed Jun 08, 2016 11:33 pm

Hi Alex, that truck was a Crawler King, so yep CK links. They are longer, not sure by how much, but I can measure them for you tonight.

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Re: Three Kings

Post by Sixtys Guy » Thu Jun 09, 2016 10:35 am

Alex, WK lower links are 108mm eye to eye and CK lower links are 118mm eye to eye.

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Re: Three Kings

Post by GRAVETXT-1 » Thu Jun 09, 2016 2:20 pm

Sixtys Guy wrote:Alex, WK lower links are 108mm eye to eye and CK lower links are 118mm eye to eye.
Brilliant that is very useful thanks :) two more questions for you Mark!

What is the stock WK upper link length?

And Crawler King upper link length?
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Re: Three Kings

Post by mrgrimm » Fri Jun 10, 2016 4:12 am

Awesome man! The truck looks killer, and the tires are gnarly and perfect. :thumbsup:

Yeah lockers are a BIG help, my Clod that you saw previously is open front and rear, but somehow holds it's own in the pit. My other 2 are locked front and rear. Sacrifice a little bit of dry ground handling but well worth it for the mud.

The good thing is that you have multiple trucks so you can play around with different setups and make each one unique!

Kind of like having a Monster, a trail truck, and a mud truck all in one package with just a few minor swap-outs. More reason to stock up on spare parts :lol:
Monster trucks rule :)

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Re: Three Kings

Post by Sixtys Guy » Mon Jul 04, 2016 12:17 pm

I swapped the diffs (the whole lot) out out of one of the other Kings and transplanted into the Mud Truck. So now it has aluminium links front and rear and a rear locker.

I also bought a cheap 35T brushed motor. I plan to run this on both 2S and 3S. I fitted an 11T 32P pinion, the smallest that will fit. This gives me a final ratio of 29.8:1 with the 60T spur. I could go with a slightly larger spur, but then the spur cover wouldn't fit. I would have preferred a lower ratio, but this isn't possible without some sort of reduction box, which I'm not doing.

The aluminium links are good, but now the steering bracket on the diff housing flexes a lot causing the steering to be poor. I don't want to go with an axle mounted servo, so I bought an aluminium upper link mount. This should fix the issue, just have to wait for it to turn up.

More actions shots tomorrow.....
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Re: Three Kings

Post by Sixtys Guy » Mon Jul 04, 2016 12:18 pm

mrgrimm wrote:Awesome man! The truck looks killer, and the tires are gnarly and perfect. :thumbsup:

Yeah lockers are a BIG help, my Clod that you saw previously is open front and rear, but somehow holds it's own in the pit. My other 2 are locked front and rear. Sacrifice a little bit of dry ground handling but well worth it for the mud.

The good thing is that you have multiple trucks so you can play around with different setups and make each one unique!

Kind of like having a Monster, a trail truck, and a mud truck all in one package with just a few minor swap-outs. More reason to stock up on spare parts :lol:
Thanks and good to know. It seems to go fine with just the rear locker.

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Re: Three Kings

Post by Sixtys Guy » Tue Jul 05, 2016 7:44 am

Mud truck got some action today! I reckon I will be stripping down the diffs and gearbox to see the damage! Was fun though!
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Re: Three Kings

Post by Sixtys Guy » Wed Jul 06, 2016 3:51 am

Had a look last night at the steering on the mud truck. I really don't want to go servo on axle, so had a good look at what was causing the poor steering. I already have an axle upper link mount on order that should fix a lot of the issue, but I also noticed how bendy the drag link off the servo saver is.

I looked at replacing it, but it has different diameter holes on each end making it a difficult task to fab something. I then had a bright idea..... super glue a steel rod to the plastic rod to strengthen it! I used a short link out of my spares kit. Pretty sure it is off a TXT-1. This has made the link really stiff.

I decided to ditch the servo saver and just use a servo arm. There are a lot of links in this setup so I am figuring that they will act like a servo saver to a degree.
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Re: Three Kings

Post by Sixtys Guy » Tue Nov 01, 2016 2:44 am

Only just got around to fitting the Hot Racing steering mount. Makes the steering a lot tighter... Also had to rebuild the 35T motor after playing in the mud. I rebuilt it, but then put a 27T motor in and went up from a 11T pinion to 13T.
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Re: Three Kings

Post by Sixtys Guy » Sat Dec 17, 2016 12:17 pm

So I somehow picked up another WK! It was cheap on Ebay and I couldn't resist! The kids have one WK each and the other is the Blackfoot mud truck, so of course I needed another...... :roll:

This one will be brushless as I have a 3350kv sensored motor and Hobby King esc spare. I will be taking some bits and pieces off the other Kings to make this one durable (and to keep costs down). Already scored a killer deal on some new tyres 8)

While I am waiting for it to turn up I decided to get a head start and I did another Mod1 gearbox mod. I want to get this one quickly, so I ordered the pinions from within Aus. The pinions are 'Area RC' X-Maxx and they are huge!

Cost of this mod was approximately $30Aud. Rc4wd gear are approximately $85Aud
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Re: Three Kings

Post by Sixtys Guy » Fri Dec 23, 2016 9:27 am

So the new King turned up and it's in really good nick.

I decided instead of modding the new one from scratch, I would convert one of the other Kings into a faster brushless truck as it already has most of the good gear on it. So I will take some of the gear off the yellow Grave Digger King and transplant it onto the new King.

And this is where I am at so far...... Traxxas 4951X drive shafts, Level 3RC servo mount, modified CPE Clod steering links, Tactic servo.

At the moment the newer King is in bits, so I need to get modding on that one too. I have chosen a new body for the brushless King, but when I went to order it, they are out of stock. I'll just have to wait until they get more stock. New tyres are still on their way too.
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