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 The answer to: "Can you use the oven to remove clod tires?" 
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And the aswer is:

Yes you can! :D .......just make sure you don't plan on re-using the wheel. :roll:

So......here's the deal:

Pro-line giant trac tires on juggernaut II wheels.
They look great......they are both discontinued.....and I stripped a wheel.... :roll:

But, I found two more wheels!
But.....my tires are glued on..... :cry:

In the oven it went @300F for 5 minutes........NADA.......
Okay.....5 more.....edge of the bead is giving a slight bit.....other-wise.....NADA...
5 more minutes.......you guessed it....... :roll: ........ :evil:

Cranked it to 350F and put the pan on the lower rack........ :twisted:

This resulted in the glue starting to melt.....and the wheel too! :shock:
Yup.....it was like taffy......(no Halgar I mean the consistancy, I didn't taste it).... :P

So I got one bead to start going, but it was not easy, what I ended up doing was hitting the wheel with compressed air to cool/harden it a little and pulling on the tire before the glue re-hardened. Once you get it so you have like an inch started, it gets easier, but it's still a pain.

You only have like a minute before it's too cool and your insulated gloves (no bare hands here) get too hot. Then you put it back in for another 5 minutes and repeat.

After that, you flip it over and do the whole process for the 2nd tire bead.

All told......it took about an hour....maybe longer.
Then I had to take a dremel and grind all the remaining glue off of the tire beads and wash it all off.

But......I got my tire off, and I'll be glueing it onto it's new wheel tonight. :mrgreen:

So now you know, it can be done.....at least with these wheels/tires.
I have no idea if the clod wheels are less prone to melting or if the clod tires are as resistant to tearing or melting as the pro-line giant tracs, but I suspect, that the results will be simular.

*EDIT* pics added :mrgreen:
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Fri May 04, 2012 10:00 pm
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Story time......With out pictures......LOL.


Ever tried to freeze them?

Or Goo-Gone?


Sat May 05, 2012 1:53 am
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I use Glue Debonder it works Great you have your Tirer and you have your rim s still not melted and I use Silcone to Glue them back on take a few Days for it to Dry but you Don't Wreck your Tirer or your rims and I do Weight Pulling,Have No Problem with them.

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LOL.....on the pictures.....I know.....I know.....
I saved the wheel, and I will take a pic of it. :P

As for silicone, I think I will try that on my V-spikes.
I know your pulling, but I have to wonder how it will do in this situation, because your fighting rotational force.....my truck is too, but centrifical force is also at play here.

A few have asked if the oven method works to get clod tires off, but no one had tried.....well, now someone has. :mrgreen:

I have tried de-bonder......it does not work well on the CA glue I use. It's really good stuff apparently.

I may try the acetone method next, but I really don't look forward to that since you have to let it sit overnight. I also don't know if it melts tamiya plastic or not?

And what's this about freezing them?

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Tryed that no good! Or i did not work for me!


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So I have to ask,
if the wheels is scrap anyway why not use a sharp exacto and cut the glue bond and remove tire.
been doing it for years with much success. Ive never understood all the trouble with oven and acetone etc etc. Am I missing something??


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slapshot1979 wrote:
So I have to ask,
if the wheels is scrap anyway why not use a sharp exacto and cut the glue bond and remove tire.
been doing it for years with much success. Ive never understood all the trouble with oven and acetone etc etc. Am I missing something??


Well for one thing.......I don't own an exacto knife.....sharp or otherwise.... :lol:

I've actually never heard of doing that, but to answer the question:
Normally, it gets the wheel and tire apart easily. I've taken many tires off using boiling and the oven (have not tried acetone yet). I would be a little concerned about slicing a tire using a knife, but I suppose like anything else, with practice it gets easier. Some tire beads however (traxxas) can't be done with a knife because....well.....you can't reach all the glue.

Back to the oven......when I do this, I can usually save both the tire and the wheel (and it usually does not take that long). I had originally intended to save the wheel and....maybe if I kept stripping them (and saving them) drill them for CPE wideners.

Other reason I did it.......the great unknown. No one had tried it. No one knew what would happen, now we do. :mrgreen:

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Update:

Used the oven method to take a stock clod tire off of a stock clod (white) wheel.
It works.......and yes, the wheel got soft and was ruined.....it got even softer than the jugg wheel did.

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Man Andy. I wish you would have said something before you did this. I had a set of wheels I got from Mike and stuck them in the oven and was able to save the wheels and tires. You cooked them to long. You want them in for a short amount of time to get the glue bond to become brittle. Once this has been acheived you let them cool and pull the bead apart. It worked for me with out melting anything. :mrgreen:

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He was probably out breaking something else while they "cooked" mwhahaha


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^^^.........LOL......... :roll:


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Nah, I doubt it would have worked for me. I do prep work to my wheels and tires before glueing. I take a dremel and scuff up the tire's bead as well as the wheel's bead.....and went heavy on the glue........ :roll:

Those things were on there good!

Even with the plastic soft it took pliers (on the wheel edge) to break it loose.

Which is not to say I won't try it sometime, but I don't expect it to work.

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If you have any desire to re-use the stock tamiya wheels, DO NOT use acetone! The wheel will literally disentergrate.

Also, do not use acetone with IMEX tires either - it will eat them right up.

I use the acetone vapor method on all my SCT tires and it works great. I have a sealable bucket with about 2" of acetone in the bottom, and a brick in the middle of it. I set the tires on the brick, and the acetone vapors take care of the glue. Takes about 4 days but there is no contact between the acetone and the tire/rim.

This method will still disentegrate Tamiiya wheels and IMEX tires though.


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I recall that baking tires changes their compound chemistry. I believe they get softer ... or harder ... Definitely one of the two! :mrgreen:

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I've heard that too, I think it actually tightens or shrinks some tires.
I just went and checked both sets I've done this to though....no difference that I can tell....

Good to know on the acetone thing! I thought so, considering how "soft" the tamiya plastic is.
I know duratrax wheels melt in acetone as well.

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andymac0035 wrote:
I know duratrax wheels melt in acetone as well.


Good to know, thanks!


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